What is the better Fillmore Mark II?

[Johnny]

Hey, cool to meet another finn here Terkkuja Kirkkonummelta. Let's keep this in english though so we won't close everybody else out of the conversation.

Are you sure yours is even a Fillmore since it was 650. Sounds more like Eastwood pricing.

Eastwood it ain't. I bought the guitar from Levytukku back in '03. They imported some Excellents from Black Cloud and the Ramo'ed model - which seemed to be exactly like the Mark II Deluxe that Fillmore was making at the time. I searched the internet but didn't find anybody else making that kind of a version then.

This was some time before the signature model, when the prices were lower. If the price was as low as $850 in the US back then, 650 EUR seems quite realistic...

Btw, Fillmores (and Excellents) are sold in Finland even now. Here's the companys' website: http://www.imai.fi/guitars/index.html They had Mosrites on display at Nastola rautalankafestivaalit last summer.

Here's a picture of the guitar (the one on the right, obviously):

Looks like it has a german carve. Well, the deluxe and signature is the same guitar anyway. Depends on what you want which is the best.

[JohnnySonic]

Are you sure yours is even a Fillmore since it was 650. Sounds more like Eastwood pricing. My MK II standard was ~1200. Johnny sig ~1500. I'm from finland too, by the way, and I've never seen a single fillmore for sale here.

The signature cost so much because Johnny was greedy, lol. (Sold guitar receipt for 500 on ebay.)

As for Johnny being greedy, the signature models sold anywhere from $850.00-$1,200.00 when they first came out. The price skyrocketed when Ed roman started selling them, as I recall. As much as $4K. There really weren't too many of these made, I doubt Johnny made much on them at all, if anything. In fact, he told Semie and Loretta that he'd be available for anything they wanted to do when the Ramones models were made, had they ever been in the position to market them, according to Loretta.

As for the reciept, it sold for around $2,200.00 at auction, good for him. The band also auctioned off a lot of memoribilia and donated the money to the NYPD and FDNY after 9-11. Greedy?

Rocco

That's right.
I think about 300 or less of the officially licenced "real deal" sign. models were made.

[JohnnySonic]

Hey, cool to meet another finn here Terkkuja Kirkkonummelta. Let's keep this in english though so we won't close everybody else out of the conversation.

Are you sure yours is even a Fillmore since it was 650. Sounds more like Eastwood pricing.

Eastwood it ain't. I bought the guitar from Levytukku back in '03. They imported some Excellents from Black Cloud and the Ramo'ed model - which seemed to be exactly like the Mark II Deluxe that Fillmore was making at the time. I searched the internet but didn't find anybody else making that kind of a version then.

This was some time before the signature model, when the prices were lower. If the price was as low as $850 in the US back then, 650 EUR seems quite realistic...

Btw, Fillmores (and Excellents) are sold in Finland even now. Here's the companys' website: http://www.imai.fi/guitars/index.html They had Mosrites on display at Nastola rautalankafestivaalit last summer.

Here's a picture of the guitar (the one on the right, obviously):

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/imag ... ba5efc.jpg

Wow! Can't be too many made with that finish.
You should really hold on to that one.
Thanks alot for the link!
I'll see if i can get a good deal on a MK I.
If they ship to Sweden that is.

[JohnnySonic]

I am also very curious with the Fillmore MK II. (The standard, like in my avatar)

I'd be very grateful if anyone with some experience regarding the model could give me some information on how thet sound/feel etc.

I know you have a red one Johnny. How did it sound it before you swapped pickups?

[Chemo]

Looks like it has a german carve. Well, the deluxe and signature is the same guitar anyway. Depends on what you want which is the best.

The Mark II doesn't have german carve, it's a slab body.... (the Ranger on the left has the german carve).

[Chemo]

Wow! Can't be too many made with that finish.
You should really hold on to that one.

Thanks, it is a keeper

I believe you know already Hi-Tone Music in Sweden? http://www.hi-tonemusic.se/

[JohnnySonic]

Wow! Can't be too many made with that finish.
You should really hold on to that one.

Thanks, it is a keeper

I believe you know already Hi-Tone Music in Sweden? http://www.hi-tonemusic.se/

Yep.

I drool all over that site on a daily basis.

[Johnny]

I am also very curious with the Fillmore MK II. (The standard, like in my avatar)

I'd be very grateful if anyone with some experience regarding the model could give me some information on how thet sound/feel etc.

I know you have a red one Johnny. How did it sound it before you swapped pickups?

It was OK. Very nice clean sound. But the replacement pickups are much, much better.

[Johnny]

Looks like it has a german carve. Well, the deluxe and signature is the same guitar anyway. Depends on what you want which is the best.

The Mark II doesn't have german carve, it's a slab body.... (the Ranger on the left has the german carve).

I'm pretty sure I see a german carve on the one on right aswell. Like a lowered edge. It doesnt look like mine.

[Veenture]

Looks like it has a german carve. Well, the deluxe and signature is the same guitar anyway. Depends on what you want which is the best.

The Mark II doesn't have german carve, it's a slab body.... (the Ranger on the left has the german carve).

I'm pretty sure I see a german carve on the one on right aswell. Like a lowered edge. It doesnt look like mine.

I think what Johnny (and maybe others) are seeing is the sharp contrast of a shadow caused by the flash (bulb) when the photo was taken. It is an apparent German carve only. The Guitar on the left would then in consequence of this phenomenon appear to have TWO German carves... in my opinion (beyond a shadow of a doubt ).
Also take a closer look at the treble horns -they only look thicker because of the same shadow effect...
I should take Chemo's word for it...he probably sees/holds/admires/plays them every day ...while he is awake and not dreaming